We’ve got some new information coming from RAZBAM in recent days with the team showing off a Mirage 2000D, a short statement from modeler Metal2Mesh on their Discord server, and an interesting comment from RAZBAM CEO Ron Zambrano on Twitter/X. How is this all interconnected and does it offer us any hope for the future with DCS? Let’s have a look at the different pieces.

Mirage 2000D?

On February 10, RAZBAM CEO Ron Zambrano shared a pair of new images on X/Twitter with the label Mirage 2000D. The company and Ron in particular has frequently shared work in progress images of all sorts of projects over the years. Some have come to fruition while others have been more of a 3D modeler exercise with little chance of becoming a module. Remember their promising 3D work on the BAe Lightning some years back?

Still, with the long standing issues between the company and DCS World developers Eagle Dynamics, showing off a new fighter jet visual product certainly raises the eyebrows.

There are a few possibilities here. One, though seemingly blocked by the ongoing dispute between RAZBAM and Eagle Dynamics, would be a future DCS World module. Another possibility raised by the community and based on rumours of possible aircraft development for MicroProse’s Falcon 5.0 is that the aircraft is intended for that product (either as an AI for a flyable).

The jet is certainly an interesting one with the 2000D offering up far more strike mission options over the 2000C we know well from DCS. The ATLIS II or PDLCT targeting pod, self-lasing for GBU laser guided weapons as well as AS-30L missiles, and obvious two seat configuration would get the attention of many a flight simmer in any combat flight sim.

That’s the background, now let’s go to the latest statements.

What Metal2Mesh is saying

RAZBAM developer Metal2Mesh is known for some of the company’s visual art and has been deeply involved in many of the products that the company has put together over the years. The M2000C and the F-15E among them.

Posting on February 12th (yesterday) on the RAZBAM Discord, here is what M2M had to say:

ANNOUNCEMENT!!! OK after long consideration. Background, doing this D model is opening up an accurate and detailed 3D model for all mirage 2000 frames, including a C. As I know which areas are shorten and can easily be done. I feel as though I owe people who purchased the M2000C product something if not everything. First, if there is a EDvRB resolution, I am looking at in the near future, approximately 6 months to a year as I not have completed 3D modeling yet. Second, along with ED honoring it’s commitment to continue their obligations in the future responsibility towards Razbam (future payments), I will: Update the exterior of the M2000C module with a newer one, for you, our customers who have enjoyed this fantastic aircraft and it will be free of charge to customers. I do not give this easily, but my morals and my commitment to improving myself everyday is something I do to retain my honor as a person. I will work out the details with Razbam, so that as I leave DCS, I did not leave you behind.

Metal2Mesh on RAZBAM Discord

Nearly everything there hinges on a very big if statement. If there is a resolution between RAZBAM and Eagle Dynamics then it sounds like a visual update to the exterior model of the RAZBAM DCS: Mirage 2000C would then happen.

Ron’s brief mention of the situation

That leads us to the third part of this discussion. Ron responded to a question about the F-15E and its future with the following message:

If everything gets solved, it’s 100% guaranteed constant development

Ron Zambrano on X/Twitter

Interesting indeed.

The takeaway

I almost hesitated writing up any of this because there’s not too much to go on here and in a sense there really isn’t much in the way of news either. There is one thing that we’ve learned and that is that there is still an “if” being portrayed to the community by two members of the RAZBAM team.

I think many of us had started to take a more pessimistic view that no resolution was possible and that the relationship was too damaged to recover. But, on the other hand, “never say never” is a phrase that has been more commonly needed recently and so has “stranger things have happened.”

Whatever the case, it looks like RAZBAM’s DCS modules have stated intentions around them should things get sorted out. If they don’t, it may also well be that RAZBAM are working on another sim and if its Falcon 5.0, as many have guessed, then we may see some new Mirage 2000D models flying around there.

This many also be an effort at bolstering PR before one move or another.

We won’t know for some time yet how this is going to play out but we know that there’s still a tiny ray of hope and for me that’ll have to be enough for today.


15 responses to “RAZBAM shows off a Mirage 2000D, offers glimmers of hope for ED resolution”

  1. Hopefully… 🙂

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  2. That doesn’t remotely read at all to me like they’re contemplating a D model but rather maybe a visual refresh of the existing C as a consequence of things learnt playing around modelling the D.

    As for RZ’s brief musings, about the only real takeaway would seem to be that at least reconciliation isn’t completely off the table. Yet.

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    1. Yes you’ve got it. The statement by Metal2Mesh is about a refresh of the C model for DCS. The D model we don’t know what they intend to do with yet but rumours abound. And yes, it seems like reconciliation is not off the table which as small a thing as that is… is a bit of news. Tidbits is all we’re getting for now.

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      1. If someone from ED starts talking up a resumption of relations then I might get a bit more excited. However, given the way Razbam/RZ have conducted communications previously regarding this dispute then I can’t help but suspect it may all just be more spin on their part.

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  3. My take away from this is that it sounds like RAZBAM are still willing to resolve this conflict between themselves and ED. Which is all I want, I don’t care who is at fault I just want to have fun and fly some planes.

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  4. I like that you did an article about it and I like how you covered it.
    Is it a ray of hope? Sure is. If there wasn’t a possibility, then it would never be mentioned. So let’s just be a little happy and take that as a win. Enough things suck these days that we could all use a little more hope in our lives.

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    1. A little hope is definitely a good thing!

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    Speaking of Falcon 5.

    is thare any news on it?

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    1. Nothing new. You can bet I’ll be reporting when it does!

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  6. I don’t trust them Razbam took money for a T-2C upgrade for FSX and never produced. Then this mess with DCS! No thanks. Crooked team

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  7. I’ll restore my optimism on this situation when the ‘ifs’ becomes ‘when’.

    M2M work is incredible and the 15E looks phenomenal. I wish that professional a lot of good fortune in his path. Love the M2000C as well, crazy nimble beast.

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  8. I don’t know Rick…

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  9. 2000-D would be amazing. But M2M says he is going to update the C and then leave DCS. Ominous, not promising.

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  10. I am very hopeful for a resolution as this whole situation was extremely shady and hurt customers most of all. Holding modules hostage is inconceivably shady. If I were a 3rd party dev for DCS, I would seriously re-consider my position, and contact Microprose instead. What a nightmare.

    I was so excited for the MiG-23MLA, and I do hold hope that it may come one day… but at the end of the day it is coming to DCS, which is run by ED, which is shady.

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    1. I was excited for the MiG-23 as well. What a cool aircraft. We’ll have to see how it all goes.

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