New hardware review coming soon: Thrustmaster T.16000M flight pack

I’m putting the finishing touches on my next hardware review and I wanted to let my readers know about it and open up the floor to any questions before I put the finishing touches on the review.

Hardware for review

Unboxing the T.16000M Flight Pack – Yes it includes rudder pedals!

I’ve done a few different hardware review articles over the last couple of years. One of my first was the VKB Gladiator and more recently I’ve reviewed the VIRPIL MongoostT-50 and WarBRD grip and base. For my next review I’m looking at something more mainstream – and that’s not a bad thing.

Thrustmaster was nice enough to send me a T.16000M package (which includes the stick, throttle and rudder pedals) for review. The complete package of this unit is roughly $200 USD depending on the retailer which means that there is potentially a lot of bang for the buck here. No strings attached and my opinions are always going to be my own when it comes to hardware reviews.

Send me your questions

Before I finish writing my review I want to open the floor to your questions. Do you have this hardware? How has it held up? Are you interested in something like this because of its lower price versus some of the higher end hardware that I’ve reviewed? Let me know in the comments!

I’ve got a few different reviews also planned coming up in the future including my review of the Delanclip headtracking solution and I’ve got some Foxx Mount custom HOTAS mounts coming which I’ll be reviewing as well.

21 Comments Add yours

  1. Voidhunger says:

    Hi, i have old version of this joystick and recently bought the throttle.
    Im interested if its worth to buy this pedals and if you can turnoff twisting of the joystick.
    If not, how it feels to play with pedals together with twisting axis. Thanks

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    1. ShamrockOneFive says:

      Great questions Voidhunger! I’ll do my best to address in the review.

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    2. nunocinacio says:

      You can ignore the reading of the twist. TM Hottas.X had a screw that allowed you to physically lock the twist, with the T16k you cannot lock the twist, but you can just ignore it by control configuration in games.

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  2. arkhamuk says:

    Ive been using the throttle with a low end VBK joystick and so far I have had no issues with it. A friend on mine had to grease the rails on his a little but I think that’s personal preference.

    Id be interested to know if the closeness of the rudder pedals is something of an issue as other offerings seem to be wider apart?

    I’m interested in your delanclip experience considering the price and availability of Track IR 5 (In Europe anyway)

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    1. ShamrockOneFive says:

      Definitely a personal preference thing. I’ll do my best to address that in the review.

      Also some great questions that I’ll be working on for all of these reviews!

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  3. I’ve only heard good things about the T1600, especially the throttle. I’ve always been on a budget and am playing with a T-Flight Stick X *puke noise*. I would like to know more detail about the quality of the stick itself and how it feels. I’m keen to purchase the t1600m, but would just like to know how much better the stick feeling is in comparison to the T-Flight. Thanks.

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    1. ShamrockOneFive says:

      Great question to try and answer. I’ll keep that in mind – I have limited experience with the T-Flight Stick X but I will still do my best to compare.

      If you were to replace your current setup is there a price point your targeting? That matters a lot when I’m comparing products.

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    2. nunocinacio says:

      In terms of precision the difference is really big. The T16k has Hall effect sensors in the joy axis (but not anywhere else). Compared to the HOTAS.X it’s much better. Throttle also has more buttons/axis.

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      1. Thanks for that explanation. I think I’m going to go for it. Just need to budget a bit first, and still deciding whether I’ll get the pedals too. I’m sure the review will give me good idea what it’s like. *waits patiently*

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      2. ShamrockOneFive says:

        It’s pretty in-depth so I need to do some more writing but it is coming soon – hopefully a week’s time.

        I also like to make sure I take some nice photos of each component. That takes me some time too. I really try and put as much effort into these reviews as possible!

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  4. Hon0 says:

    I am interested to hear you about the design difference between the T16000 and the VKB Gladiator centering mechanism that you also tried. (Combined versus separated axes). Why one is better than the other etc..
    Not sure what other throttle you already tried. But I would also be interested to hear you about “flat” / sliding on rail throttle like CH throttle and the TM TWCS, as opposed to “rotating” throttle like the Warthog and most other throttle.

    Have fun with your new toys 👍

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    1. ShamrockOneFive says:

      Great questions. The T.16000M vs Gladiator is a very interesting comparison point and I am going to try and bring that up.

      The rail versus rotating throttle is interesting. This is the first time I’ve had a rail throttle… everything else I’ve used (X-52, Warthog, T-50 TCS, etc.).

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  5. TexasWarbird says:

    How’s the quality of the Gimble? It’s made out of plastic on the joy stick.

    And what product do you use to lubricate the entire HOTAS setup?

    Do you use the Throttle Finger mini joy stick or is it too touchy?

    What did you use to secure the entire HOTAS setup from any excessive movements?

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    1. ShamrockOneFive says:

      Great questions! I’ll do my best to answer many of them in the review.

      I haven’t tried lubricating any of my flight sim hardware gear. That’d take some research for sure.

      Also, this setup is very much a desktop solution, however, I have some Foxx Mounts ordered and coming which I’m going to use with my setup. It’s going to be interesting to try out!

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  6. Ryan Kirkwood says:

    I had ordered this pack but months went by while I waited for availability. I finally was able to cancel the order and buy all three components separately at the same time for the same price. This was my intro to flight simulation so I wanted all the components at once and the price was ok.

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  7. Marco says:

    It’s a great setup, very precise and reliable, it’s a great mid end product.

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  8. Michael Dwyer says:

    A few points from me on the throttle. I got it due to the price (low) and button count(high). It’s been a good investment and I have had no real issues with mine. The butterfly on the front has had a little issue but A) I don’t used it much now B) re calibrating it once fixed the issues.

    As for the lubrication on the main slide part, the tension can be adjusted. Invert the unit, slide the throttle all the way forward and you should see screw inside the unit line up with a hole in the outer part. You can reduce tension on the slide with this but take care not to remove it or you will have to do some disassembly to get the parts back on.

    Since I have a homemade set of rudder peddles I would love to hear what you think of them as I may buys them at some point.

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    1. ShamrockOneFive says:

      That’s some great information Michael. Thanks for sharing your experiences! I will definitely be talking about the pedals. It still comes down to a price point consideration but my feeling is for the price that they are quite good. Some pedals don’t offer toe brakes as well as the rudder action but these do which is already a great thing to see.

      More to write on that!

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      1. Antoine Vieillefont says:

        About “lubrication”, on r/Hotas and their Discord (https://discord.gg/szqaJE7) I often see Nyogel 767A recommended. It is a dampening grease rather than a dedicated lubricant. On both the TWCS and T16k I found the result to be worth the price of that expensive grease.
        It greatly reduce the difference between static and dynamic friction.

        Here is a little case study that I’m sure will interest you 👍 as it is done on the same hardware. Plus you get tutorial on how and where to apply the grease.
        https://support.newgatesimms.com/flight-simulator-joystick-and-throttle-damping-case-study/

        Have a good Week End. (Sorry for trying to post a second time, my comment doesn’t appear so.. Also I’m no familiar with with WordPress 😣).

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      2. ShamrockOneFive says:

        WordPress tends to hold back posts for approval when they have lots of links. I just need to get to the post and make it visible.

        Thanks for sharing all of this information. It’s very useful and I’ll incorporate a bit into my review!

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  9. Vorenus81 says:

    I’m using this set in IL-2 and DCS and in my view it’s a good value for the money. I recently had some experience with their customer service and must admit it’s of very high quality. There was a problem with Z-Axis (wrist twist) in my joystick, which was wobbling to one side even when idle. I wrote to Thrustmaster regarding this issue and got a response very quickly. All I had to do, was to send them a short video, showing the reported issue, tested in windows control panel. Once I I’ve done it, they sent me new piece within a week, without having to send them the faulty device back. I was very satisfied with the customer service and I can wholeheartedly recommend it.

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