New DCS: J-8II FAQ gives us plenty of details

I’ve been trying to learn more about the J-8II and specifically the J-8II version that Deka Ironworks announced last week as their new module for DCS World. Yesterday they added a new section to their forum with a FAQ that includes quite a few details about the J-8II Peace Pearl variant that they are building and its a really interesting combination of features. Let’s have a look!

A summary of flight character, weapons, avionics

The J-8II is quite the interesting airplane with its mix of MiG-21, MiG-23, and F-4 design and design elements all crammed into one, the Peace Pearl variant with upgrades featuring US avionics continues that mashup of technologies even more. Deka’s new FAQ really goes into some detail about just what makes up this unique airframe and while they don’t explicitly state it, it seems that references for this avionics are very likely to be easier to get a handle on.

Some of the equipment in the J-8II is actually quite familiar. The HUD comes from the F-16A/B and is quite similar to the one that the DCS: F-16C sports. There’s also a HDD glass display with buttons and an interface that are very much an F-16C arrangement. The HOTAS? Modified from the F-15 style.

Radar is an APG-66(V)-PRC-F8 which apparently is quite similar to the US APG-66(V) found on the early F-16 series, however, it lacks most AG modes.

The RWR? Chinese and quite similar to the SPO-10 from some Russian aircraft. It’s primitive and can only do rough directions, search and lock, and so forth.

As for flying the aircraft itself, they also talk about some of the characteristics of the J-8. Deka report that it can easily accelerate to its top speed of Mach 2.2 and it can even overspeed its designed specifications reportedly going into an uncontrollable side-slip after exceeding Mach 2.35. The delta wing gives the airplane good stall character with minimum manoeuvring speed lower than 200km/h and an angle of attack around 30 degrees.

Weaponry is also detailed. Outboard pylons can carry 57 or 90mm rock pods, PL-5 and PL-8 missiles. The middle pylons can carry 250 kg GP bombs, PL-5, PL-8 and Aspide/PL-11 missiles, and the inboard pylons can only carry the PL-5. A centerline pylon can also carry up to six 250kg bombs.

For those less familiar with the weapon options. The PL-5 was based on the K-13/AA-2 Atoll which was based on an early Sidewinder version. Later versions like the PL-5E2 on the JF-17 are all aspect while the J-8II will probably sport a rear aspect only missile.

The PL-8 is based on the Python 3 missiles provided by Israel and is the second IR seeker missile in the J-8II’s arsenal with a slightly greater range. The Python 3 its based on could be slaved to a radar lock, however, this was not possible with Chinese radar systems. Will the J-8II PP version that we have be able to do it? Maybe.

Then we have the Aspide or PL-11 missile. This Italian designed missile was roughly similar to the AIM-7E Sparrow missile with a semi-active homing capability and approximately 20-21 nm maximum range. China produced early versions under license before a breakdown in relations lead to locally developed version. It’s unclear which version we’ll get.

Pricing and other features

Deka also confirmed that the aircraft will come with both English and Chinese localizations. It will not, however, have the Lazur-M GCI system (think of the GCI system that the M-2000C added some months ago) and the IFF system will remain the DCS World standard of being somewhat simplified.

They also talk pricing saying that it won’t be as expensive as the JF-17. The JF-17 is retailing for $79.99 USD so this may come in somewhat cheaper around the $69.99 or even $59.99 USD mark. This does make sense as the J-8II has far fewer systems to incorporate into the simulation than the JF-17 with its array of sensors, pods, and weaponry.

Check out the Deka J-8II FAQ for images, diagrams, and more explaining the J-8II. Should be an interesting airplane to check out.

10 Comments Add yours

  1. CanadaOne says:

    It’s a cool looking plane for sure.

    Liked by 3 people

  2. Ken-Dagfinn Rian says:

    That one might make me try redfor…

    Liked by 1 person

    1. CanadaOne says:

      The Su-25 is definitely redfor worthy. Would be great to have a full fidelity model with updated graphics.

      Liked by 2 people

      1. ShamrockOneFive says:

        I’d like to see that one too and I think it has a reasonable chance of being a thing. The avionics on early Su-25s are not too far off from the Mi-24 so if they were able to make that work then a Frogfoot might be possible too.

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  3. butcher75 says:

    I’ll take all the RedFor aircraft I can get my hands on. Bonus that is coming from Deka as so far I have been very impressed by their work and how they behave with us customers. Hats off to them they kind of came out of nowhere and surprised us all.

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  4. Blue 5 says:

    Really am inclined to get this. Presuming that a J-10 is likely off the cards, then thia plus a J-11 (old version) would be quite good PLAAF fodder.

    Now we can all play ‘let’s ram the P-3’

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  5. Urgent Siesta says:

    Thanks for this update – hadn’t seen it!

    There’s a fair amount of negative feedback, so I’ll share here what I posted on the FAQ:

    “One thing I always appreciate are creative solutions to difficult challenges.

    This version of the J-8 is the very essence of that ethos, AND will bring a credible Full Fidelity OpFor aircraft to a game that desperately needs them.

    After seeing the initial quality and ongoing enhancements to their JF-17, I will definitely be adding this J-8 to my hangar.

    I guess the hard part is that there can only be a few “loopholes” like this to build modules from…

    I’ve said it elsewhere, but I think PLAAF/PRC are missing out on fantastic PR & sales opportunities to promote their weapons systems to the world. They should be supporting Deka rather than blocking them.”

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    1. Blue 5 says:

      PRC does not like gaming and probably regards DI as somewhere between unpatriotic and an intelligence risk.

      Not the most open-minded of gov’ts.

      There is also a credibility question – ‘help’ from Chinese industry / gov’t would come with a sharply subjective flavour regarding system capability. Recall Oleg’s famous dlta wood?

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    2. ShamrockOneFive says:

      Yeah after seeing what Deka were able to do with the JF-17, I have no doubt that this will be a quality product. Doing different military aircraft, particularly ones that are more closed, requires a bit of creativity and Deka have really found a pretty good loophole to work with here. I’m not at all bothered by it.

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      1. Blue 5 says:

        I am very pro these kind of companies. We have all metaphorically flown metaphorical Spitfires and 109s since the first sims were born (metaphorically).

        Different, weird, unusual is such a pleasant change. I get the economical challenge for a small team but I will throw my cash that way to reward the effort on a difficult job and a good effort.

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