C-47, Li-2, Snipe, Siemens-Schuckert D.IV collector planes announced!

IL-2: Great Battles fans have some new aircraft options on the horizon as four new Collector Planes were announced for the series. Two variants of the legendary DC-3 have been announced along with the first Collector Planes for Flying Circus in the form of the Sopwith Snipe and the Siemens-Schuckert D.IV fighter. I have the details and the significance of each of these aircraft to the series.

C-47 and Li-2 bring Allied transport ops to IL-2

The DC-3 is a legendary aircraft of history whose simple and smart design, robust construction, flexibility of purpose saw it first fly as an airliner before then being converted to military transport and used on both sides of WWII. It flew as the C-47 in the United States military service, the Dakota in the RAF and Commonwealth Air Forces, the Lisouov Li-2 in Russian service, and as the L2D in Japanese service – all during WWII. Total production including all of the various sub variants and license builds top 16,000. DC-3 variants are still flying in 2020 in active service making this one of the most successful aircraft designs in the world.

Introducing the C-47 and Li-2 to IL-2 I think it will leave a significant mark on the series as it will be the second primarily transport focused aircraft in the sim. It will offer the Allies an equivalent to the Ju52 and that hopefully open the door to more transport focused flying.

It’s paradrop capabilities are an iconic use during the Normandy invasion which should make for some interesting single player scenarios. In multiplayer, there are more servers that are beginning to incorporate paradrop and supply flights into their basic operations. None more than Finnish Virtual Pilots with their designated drop points and transport flights allowing essential operations from forward air bases. Adding a second aircraft will make this more enjoyable and reduce those friendly fire incidents when the Ju52 is flying on the Allied side.

The Li-2 will come with its own unique features including an optional defensive turret and a small bomb carrying capacity which makes it a light bomber as well as transport aircraft. It also comes with different engines, engine cowlings, instruments, cargo doors and other changes. There’s enough differences between it and the C-47 that the two are being offered separately.

Flying Circus gets its first Collector Planes

If there has been anything to critique Flying Circus’ aircraft set, it’s that it has relied on recreating and upgrading the aircraft models of Rise of Flight in the newer IL-2 engine. That has worked out exceptionally well in my estimation even if there are a few issues that need to be worked out over time. What we hadn’t seen are any new aircraft but that changes today with the announcement that the Sopwith Snipe 7.F1 and the Siemens-Schuckert D.IV are both to be created and sold as Collector Planes for the series.

To date, we’ve never seen either of these aircraft in Rise of Flight, so they offer a unique set of options.

The Sopwith Snipe was the Sopwith company’s attempt at creating a successor to the succesful Sopwith Camel. By 1918, the Camel was falling behind the newest German scouts and a better performing aircraft was needed. The Snipe was the answer with more power on tap allowing the aircraft to climb more quickly and increasing the top speed just a few notches over the Camel. It wasn’t quite as fast as some other contemporary aircraft but it had impressive climb rate. The Snipe became the post war RAF standard for several years.

It was conventionally armed with two .303 Vickers machine guns and optionally armed with 4x25lb bombs.

Siemens-Schuckert D.IV was introduced later in 1918 after the D.III model was revealed to have a critical defect in the engine caused. Despite the engine issues, the aircraft was apparently well liked and its strong climb rate was one of its positive attributes.

Like most other German scouts of the time, it carried a pair of LMG 08/15 7.92mm machine guns.

Pre-order details

The C-47A Skytrain is available for $19.99 promotional price (normal price $24.44). The others will be offered once work has begun on them.

Visit the IL-2 official store if you’re interested and check out the official announcement here!

19 Comments Add yours

  1. Doctor Drago says:

    YES! Dak AND Snipe? GREAT NEWS

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  2. Blue 5 says:

    Well…crikey. What to do, hmm.

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  3. Blue 5 says:

    Well, well. I would have preferred maybe some early-war types but these are 2 interesting end-of-era rotary-engined machines. The IV looks better on Wiki data but the Snipe has a much larger tank so if you put them on equivalent fuel loads the Sopwith might have it on performance.

    Either way, they are a class act for the series.

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  4. Reinhard Eichler says:

    Siemens, my friend, Siemens 😀 (still today one of the biggest companies in germany)
    The Siemens Schuckert D IV was rumored to be superior to even the Fokker D VIIF, i am very curious how well it’ll perform in IL2.

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    1. ShamrockOneFive says:

      Fixed! I wanted to get this one out quickly so everyone knew… and I made a few mistakes. I had it written down as a SSD.III for a little while too. Too much excitement 🙂

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  5. padinn says:

    We need to do a c47 event for sturmovikfest

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    1. ShamrockOneFive says:

      Love that idea!

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  6. bigalrico says:

    FInally and offically ! The lovely Dakota finds it (flyable) way into our hands. I’m so god damn happy. As soon as I have a bit money to spare she will be mine!

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  7. Chris says:

    Are any of the Flying Circus 2 aircraft flyable atm? Thinking of preordering.

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    1. ShamrockOneFive says:

      Yes. Check out my recent review of the Nieuport 28. The Fokker D.VIII is due sometime in June which brings us to two.

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      1. Chris says:

        Great. Thanks.

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  8. hypertexthero says:

    Absolutely delighted about the upcoming C-47!

    A beautiful aeroplane!

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  9. Blue 5 says:

    Any insight into the mentioned FC3? Presume 1916-17 aircraft

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    1. ShamrockOneFive says:

      Some! FC3 was confirmed back during the FC2 announcement and while we don’t know what the exact plans are, we do know that it will feature another sector of the WWI western front map. Jason also indicated that fans of earlier aircraft like the Nieuport 17 would be happy. We don’t have anything else to go on.

      I suspect that we have enough options for a FC4 as well.

      It makes a lot of sense to me. Vol 1 brought in some of the best selling types from Rise of Flight to help get things rolling. Vol 2 is coming in on the heels of that with a complementary planeset. Vol 3 will likely overlap with Vol 2 and 1 and start to move backward through time. And then Vol 4 helps finish that off.

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      1. Blue 5 says:

        Much obliged as always for the recap. I FC3 forecast:
        – Ypres salient map
        – 1916-17 aircraft including possible seaplanes
        – No Be2 / Av. 504K because they never get any love, but probably an Re8
        – Everyone decides on a pint at the Winchester until it all blows over

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      2. ShamrockOneFive says:

        The map is actually known. It’s the Reims Sector. https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/67797-announcing-il-2-sturmovik-flying-circus-volume-ii/

        I’d LOVE the seaplanes to make a return.

        Pint at the Winchester seems smart 🙂

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  10. Owi says:

    I hope the c47 gets a shorter development time than normal since much is done alredy. I dont really know how fast Urga works but I must say they did a fine Job with the po2!

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  11. Blue 5 says:

    Well that’s me wrong off the bat. I’ll get my coat..

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